What is the link between Jack the Ripper and Abraham Lincoln? A strange question you might think. One is a notorious murderer whose killings terrorised women in the East End of London in 1888; the other was President of the USA who was assassinated in 1865. My guest this week, historian and author Tony McMahon, explores this link in his book, aptly named “Jack The Ripper and Abraham Lincoln”. This book is absolutely fascinating and I am so pleased to welcome Tony onto the blog to explain his investigations, and his book. But first, here’s a quick book summary:
BOOK SUMMARYi
A fraudulent doctor, Francis Tumblety, is implicated in both the 1865 assassination of President Abraham Lincoln in Washington DC and the 1888 Jack the Ripper killings in the East End of London. It seems incredible but the compelling evidence is revealed in this book.
We delve into the murderous trail left by Tumblety – one that stretches from America’s Gilded Age to the poverty-ridden slums of London’s Whitechapel district and explore the murky underworld which enabled his horrific crimes. He was a flamboyant huckster, well known in the newspaper gossip columns though his celebrity masked his homicidal tendencies. Arrested over clear links to the Lincoln assassination then released while others were hanged on the scaffold. Locked up by Scotland Yard as a prime Jack the Ripper suspect, but then made a daring escape. The proof is overwhelming that Tumblety, a man who possessed a grisly collection of uteruses in a cabinet of curiosities, was undoubtedly Jack the Ripper.
THE INTERVIEW
Hello Tony and welcome to the blog 😊
Hello, 😊I’m Tony McMahon – a book author and a regular contributor on TV history and science documentaries. My background is in TV and print news journalism going back to the 1990s and I love researching true crime and historical cases.
What gave you the initial idea to investigate Francis Tumblety and his links with both the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and the Jack The Ripper killing; and to write this very intriguing investigative book of your findings?
A couple of years ago, I appeared on an episode of History channel’s documentary series ‘William Shatner’s The UnXplained’ to talk about the larger-than-life American arrested as a Jack the Ripper suspect in London in 1888. He was a rather eccentric chap called Francis Tumblety. Now, I knew the name of this suspect, but my research for this TV show left me astonished. There were so many layers to his story. Here was a man implicated in not just the Ripper case but also – twenty-five years before – the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln – as well as many other crimes. I had to investigate further and the stories that emerged were so compelling, I decided it needed a book.
I really enjoyed reading your book, “Jack The Ripper And Abraham Lincoln”. Researching the life of Francis Tumblety must have been quite interesting..…what nugget of information did you uncover that was totally unexpected?
I loved immersing myself in all the scandals of the American Civil War period, the Gilded Age, and the seedier side of Victorian London. The newspapers from that period were surprisingly candid and quite racy. Really demolishes the notion of buttoned-up, starchy Victorians. The nugget that excited me the most about Tumblety was discovering an interview from years after his death with a retired police captain in Buffalo, New York state, who had seen Tumblety with President Lincoln’s killer, John Wilkes Booth. Connecting those two men was really important. What also intrigued me writing the book was realising that Tumblety was being protected all the time by influential networks that meant he never served time behind bars or dangled from the hangman’s rope.
The thought that he had a collection of uteruses in a cabinet of curiosities is rather chilling… but could his celebrity status in the USA have given him a cloak of invisibility and were there any possibilities that he could have committed Jack The Ripper style killings prior to 1888 in the USA?
Even nineteenth century opinion was horrified by the reports of his collection of uteruses in glass jars that he used to display after his all-male dinner parties. Once Scotland Yard heard about that from their American police counterparts, they were convinced he was Jack the Ripper. Regarding his undoubted celebrity in America and Canada – I think you’re right that being so prominent was a form of protection. He was operating in plain sight, almost daring the authorities to come and get him. And of course they did on occasion but Tumblety always wriggled off the hook. Prior to the Ripper killings we know for certain he was implicated in two manslaughter cases and American sources speculated that Tumblety and one of his ‘valets’, referred to as Jack the Texan, could have been behind a series of gruesome murders in Texas known as the Servant Girl Annihilator killings.
Why was Tumblety released when the rest of his fellow Lincoln assassination gang members were hanged?
Before Tumblety was arrested and imprisoned, Lincoln’s killer John Wilkes Booth had been shot dead. There is no doubt that Tumblety and Booth knew each other. We also know from contemporary newspaper accounts that he employed David Herold, one of the four plotters hanged over the Lincoln assassination and the interview with the retired police captain confirms that Tumblety also was connected to Mary Surratt, the only woman hanged in relation to the case. Tumblety was not only accused of being an assassination plotter but of being involved in a conspiracy to spread yellow fever among Union troops during the American Civil War. And yet he walked free from the Old Capitol Prison. This troubled me and the explanation that seems most plausible to me is his connections. This really was a “who you know” kind of world. And Tumblety, the inveterate networker, had tapped up the right people as a kind of insurance policy – and it paid off well.
Growing up, had you always wanted to be a historian or did your career aspirations lay elsewhere?
I always loved writing – and still do. My brain just flows through my fingertips on to the keyboard. When I was a kid, I thought I might like to be an archaeologist but never pursued that path. Maybe I prefer not to get my hands too dirty! Researching, writing, and public speaking are my true loves.
Is “Jack The Ripper And Abraham Lincoln” available to purchase worldwide?
It is indeed. Inevitably, it’s on Amazon and can be bought in print and digital form. The audible version is not available yet. But you can find it on most top book retailer sites.
Are you a bookworm? If so, what genres (or authors) do you usually like to read? And are you a kindle or “proper book” fan?
I have a vast amount of books and old newspapers in shelves up to the ceiling. It’s a great backdrop for Zoom interviews but I really need to rein in my book buying. I’m still very much a “proper book” person as paper gives you that unique reading experience that’s hard to describe. Tend to read a lot of non-fiction history and politics stuff but when it comes to fiction, no surprise that the historical fiction champions like Hilary Mantel and Robert Harris are favourites.
As you are a historian, do you have a particular favourite period in history?
I’ve been commissioned by the publishing house Pen & Sword to write a trilogy on the Knights Templar so I’m living in the Middle Ages right now. I’m fascinated by the Crusades and of course so much of the politics of that period has resonated down the centuries. But I’m equally a big fan of the nineteenth century and having grown up in the 1970s, I’ve always been fond of that much abused decade.
Personal now – what outfits and shoes would you normally be found wearing?
In the winter months, I love going all tweed and brogues. With my sweeping beard and twirly moustache, I can look very Edwardian.
Do you have any favourite shops or online sites ?
I adore cheese and indulge that addiction at Paxton & Whitfield on Jermyn Street, every so often, which has an amazing selection of cheeses. They also do cheese tasting classes which I recommend.
Every three months, I go to the quarterly Bloomsbury Ephemera Fair in central London where you can get everything from early Victorian theatre posters to ancient medieval maps.
What’s next on your clothes/shoe wish lists?
When it comes to clothes, Son of a Stag off Brick Lane has an amazing selection of heritage clothing including Japanese denim and American workwear if I want something butch and fashionable.
Boots or Shoes?
I love fashionable sneakers. I’ll pop down to Shoreditch and Brick Lane every so often to get some cool footwear. The only thing is, I wear my sneakers to death – until they fall apart. I’m not only of these people who keeps his footwear in pristine condition.
Links you would like to share e.g. website/facebook etc
I run several blogs.
My London history blog: https://london-ghosts.com/
Beardy History covers everything and anything: https://beardyhistory.com/
My obsession with the 1970s can be explored here: https://the70s80s90s.com/
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Knights Templar: https://thetemplarknight.com/
Great to chat to you Tony. I found the book absolutely fascinating – thank you for the review copy. My thanks also to Ben Cameron of Cameron Publicity & Marketing.
Linda x
Photographs have been published with kind permission of Tony McMahon as well as photographs by Linda Hobden.